Picking up from the last episode on BAME leadership (which you should listen to first) we’re talking about what it means to be a ally to your BAME colleagues, what the purpose is and what it looks like when it’s not easy. We speak to Exec. Head Patrick Ottley O’Connor and Allana Gay about what they’ve done and would like to see done to promote an equitable education system for people from all backgrounds. We also hear from Pran Patel about power, the racist-anti-racist spectrum and his advice for allies.

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